外交部边海司司长邓中华接受凤凰卫视访谈实录（中英对照）

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 Text of Interview of Director-General of the MFA Department of Boundary and Ocean Affairs Deng Zhonghua by Phoenix Satellite TV

　　2012年5月8日，外交部边海司司长邓中华做客凤凰卫视《新闻今日谈》栏目，就黄岩岛问题接受主持人阮次山先生采访，介绍了此次黄岩岛事件的背景及中方在黄岩岛问题上的立场和政策主张，强调菲律宾应回到外交途径解决黄岩岛事件的正确轨道上来。访谈文字实录如下：

On May 8, 2012, Director-General of the Department of Boundary and Ocean Affairs of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs Deng Zhonghua received the interview on the issue of Huangyan Island by Moderator Anthony Yuen of Phoenix Satellite TV’s News Talk. Deng introduced the background of the Huangyan Island issue and China’s position and policy proposition. He stressed that the Philippines should return to the right track of seeking diplomatic solution to the Huangyan Island issue. The following is the text of the interview.

　　阮次山：我们和菲律宾在黄岩岛上面的对峙已经将近一个月，最近这个事态在菲律宾方面，似乎好像是没有要解决这个问题的意思，好像事情愈演愈烈，一直到昨天我们外交部副部长傅莹曾经召见他们菲律宾驻华的临时代办。这一点我们也要说一下，菲律宾没有大使已经快一年了，他新总统阿基诺任命的大使在菲律宾国会没有获得同意，所以一直到现在他在中国没有大使，只有临时代办，所以傅莹在昨天接见又第三度召见他的临时代办，表示我们对这个事情严重关切，那么也表达了，如果这个事情再继续恶化下去，中国方面准备采取必要的措施。

Yuen: our standoff with the Philippines on the Huangyan Island issue has lasted nearly a month. According to the latest developments, it seems that the Philippines has no intention to solve the issue and things are getting intensified. Yesterday Vice Foreign Minister Fu Ying summoned the charge d’affaires of the Philippine embassy in China. Here we would like to note that it has been almost one year that there is no Philippine ambassador to China. The ambassador appointed by its new President Aquino was not approved by the Congress. That’s why until now they have had no ambassador but only a charge d’affaires to China. Yesterday, Fu Ying for the third time summoned their charge d’affaires to express our serious concern about the issue. We have also made it clear that China is ready to take the necessary measures if the matter continues to worsen.

　　在这种情况之下熟悉外交事务的人都晓得，我们中国方面是想尽办法希望菲律宾，我们说一句比较通俗的话，希望你悬崖勒马，可是如果他不悬崖勒马我们有我们自己的办法。所以我们今天非常高兴能够邀请到我们中国外交部边海司司长邓中华司长，来给我们从法理的观点，从过去一个月快29天这个过去的种种过程来给我们做一个比较详细的分析。邓司长，我们先从开始现在菲律宾在这个事情上面它一再的讲说这个是它的领海，其实它一开始就有这种措施。那么您可不可以从法理的观点来看这个地方：菲律宾说是他的领土，全世界的人也都知道菲律宾这个讲法是非常的牵强的，您可不可以从法律、法理的立场来看，这个地方菲律宾犯的是什么样的错误呢？

Under such circumstances, people familiar with diplomacy know that China is trying its best and, to put in a more popular way, China hopes that the Philippines wakes up to the danger at last moment. If they don’t, we will take necessary measures. Therefore, today we are very glad to have Director-General of the Department of Boundary and Ocean Affairs of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs Deng Zhonghua here to give us a detailed analysis of the developments over the past 29 days or almost one month from a legal point of view. Mr. Deng, the Philippines repeatedly claims that Huangyan Island belongs to its territorial waters and in fact it has been taking actions accordingly very early on. The Philippines claims that Huangyan Island is its territory, but the whole world knows this argument is very far-fetched. Could you tell us what is wrong with the Philippines from the standpoint of law and jurisprudence?

　　邓中华：谢谢阮先生，黄岩岛是中国的领土，这是没有任何争议的，是非常明确的。如果说到这个问题，我想说大量的历史事实充分证明了黄岩岛是中国的领土。中国人在几百年前，上千年前就已经在黄岩岛海域从事过活动，在中国的历史记载上都有，这个过程我不用细说，但我想说的是，中国政府历次对在南海的岛屿的命名都包括了黄岩岛，比如说1935年中国政府宣布对南海岛屿的命名，1947年、1983年等等几次都宣布了我们对黄岩岛的命名，这本身就以政府的法律的行为证明黄岩岛是中国的领土，而且中国历代政府的地图上都包括了黄岩岛，这是一方面。

Deng: thank you, Mr. Yuen. It is undisputable and crystal clear that Huangyan Island is China’s territory. Talking about this, I would like to say that a lot of historical facts fully prove Huangyan Island is Chinese territory. Several hundred of years ago or even one thousand years ago, the Chinese have engaged in activities in the Huangyan Island waters. It is recorded in the Chinese history and I do not need to elaborate on this. But I want to say that all the previous naming of the islands in the South China Sea by the Chinese government includes Huangyan Island. For example, the Chinese government announced the naming of the South China Sea islands in 1935 and the naming of Huangyan Island in 1947 and 1983. In the form of legal act of the government, the naming itself proves that Huangyan Island is Chinese territory. The maps published by the Chinese government in all ages contain Huangyan Island. This is the first point.

　　另一方面，黄岩岛世世代代都是中国渔民的传统的渔场。比如说最近的报道，就报道了我们海南的（覃门镇）的渔民一直把黄岩岛海域称作他们的祖宗海，他们一直在那儿捕鱼，世世代代在那儿捕鱼，不仅如此，我们各个方面的人员也经常到黄岩岛海域进行活动，包括在那儿进行科研活动，进行无线电安置活动，这方面活动是非常非常多的，所以我说黄岩岛是中国的领土，这是没有任何争议的事实。

On the other hand, Huangyan Island for generations has been a traditional fishing ground of the Chinese fishermen. For example, according to a recent report, fishermen in Hainan (Qinmen Town) always call the Huangyan Island waters their ancestor waters. They have been fishing there for generations. What’s more, Chinese people from all sectors also go to Huangyan Island often to conduct scientific researches and install radios, etc. There are lots of these activities. That’s why I say it is an undisputable fact that Huangyan Island is China’s territory.

　　另外，我们再来看看菲律宾。菲律宾在很长一段时间都公开说黄岩岛不是菲律宾的领土。1990年菲律宾驻德国大使在给德国无线电爱好者的信函里面明确的说，黄岩岛不是菲律宾的领土。我想阮先生知道一个国家派驻另外一个国家的大使，他是代表这个国家的特命全权大使，他的讲话特别是他的书面文件代表了一个国家的正式立场。不仅如此，1994年菲律宾环境与自然资源保护部的一份正式文件里面也明确地说黄岩岛不是菲的领土。那么菲律宾从什么时候才开始提出黄岩岛是他的领土呢，是在1997年以后，但是即使在那以后菲律宾出版的所有官方地图上面都没有把黄岩岛列入它的领土，包括2006年地图里面都没有把黄岩岛包括在菲律宾的领土里。

In addition, let’s look at the Philippines. The Philippines for a very long period of time has publically stated that Huangyan Island is not its territory. In 1990, the Philippine Ambassador to Germany said clearly in a letter to the German radio amateurs that Huangyan Island is not the territory of the Philippines. I believe Mr. Yuen must know that the comment, especially the written document of the Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary of one country to another represents the official stance of his or her country. Furthermore, in 1994, an official document of the Philippine Department of Environment and Natural Resources also clearly stated that Huangyan Island is not the Philippine territory. Then, when did the Philippines begin claiming that Huangyan Island is its territory? It is after 1997. But even after 1997 all the official maps published by the Philippines do not include Huangyan Island in its territory, even the 2006 map.